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  New 16 page WT & AWAKE available on jw.org

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  needless to say it's the same old rubbish.

  the wt has the usual 'doom & gloom front cover, end of the world, fireball, people running in panic.... george.

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  bats in the belfry

  Whoa! The font for the Awake! has gotten awfully big - as if they don't have to communicate much to the rest of mankind anymore.

  Nor do they bother to align the text left and right to the margins for the public reader - pure sloppiness.
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  How Many Hours Did You Spend Going to the Meetings and Ministry?

  by God_Delusion in

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  2. experiences

  i spent far too many.

  in fact, i recently created a spreadsheet and documented how many hours i spent in total per week.

  it's so depressing.

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  bats in the belfry

  It amounts to much more than a tithing.

  Just take your hourly income/earning rate multiplied by the hours spent for meetings and ministry. See for yourself whether or not it surpasses the 10% mark of your weekly or monthly income; and that figure does not even include gasoline or public transportation charges.

  15 What is included in this spiritual tithe? For one thing, we give Jehovah of our time and energy. The time we spend at meetings, in attending assemblies and conventions, in the field service, all of this is something given to Jehovah—a part of our tithe. The time and energy we spend visiting the sick and helping others—again, these are part of our tithe. Assisting in constructing Kingdom Halls and sharing in the work of maintaining and cleaning the hall are likewise a part.
  16 Our tithe also includes our financial contributions.

  1992 The Watchtower, December 1, page 16, pars. 15-16
  
  
  
  In our day the tithe represents the time, energy, and finances that are used directly in Jehovah’s service and in support of the Kingdom work. The tithe includes the time we spend at meetings, assemblies, and conventions, as well as in maintaining and cleaning our meeting places.
  

  Our Kingdom Ministry, May 1993, page 3, par. 7
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  Will Don Cameron have to write a new book?

  by tornapart in

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  in light of the 'new light' recently about the fds not being inspected until later (and not in 1919) does this mean don cameron will have to rewrite his 'captives of a concept'?

  as most of his book is debunking this 'inspection of 1919'.

  any thoughts?.

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  bats in the belfry

  A.: No.

  ... he just has to provide "clip 'n glue" sheets with the updated information.

  It's a proven technique practiced many times when the revised Revelation Climax book came out.
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  Was the Watchtower Right?

  by Christ Alone in

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  this question is for atheists and believers.

  what teachings do you think the watchtower got right and why?

  do you still think they are right about the trinity?

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  bats in the belfry

  An emphatic NO.

  

  2013 The Watchtower, January 1
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  New Trademark (tm)

  by bats in the belfry in

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  picture of F&DS with Russel, Franz, Luther, Tyndale, Gutenburg, etc

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was there not a watchtower article years ago that had a picture of the f&ds that included russel and franz but also had images of non-jw's like luther, gutenburg, tyndale, et al?

  i swear this image exists!

  woj

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  Mix 'n Match

  
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  Can Lightning Strike Twice? New GB Prediction!

  by donuthole in

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  2. friends

  no more random anointing at all.

  no more "i just have a feeling" vagueness.

  the watchtower amps up the language implying that many (most?

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  bats in the belfry

  donuthole >>

  The "laying on of hands", would be figurative, meaning that they would simply approve you

  My guess is, the "laying on of hands" will still be done by 'Great Crowd' folks, just as they used to do.

  14 While bodies of elders share with traveling overseers in recommending brothers to serve as elders and ministerial servants, the actual appointments are made according to the pattern set in the first century. On one occasion, a need arose for spiritually qualified men to care for an important assignment. The governing body gave the following direction: “Search out for yourselves seven certified men from among you, full of spirit and wisdom, that we may appoint them over this necessary business.” (Acts 6:1-3) While men on the scene made the recommendations, the appointments were made by responsible men there in Jerusalem. A similar pattern is followed today.

  15 The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses directly appoints all members of Branch Committees. When deciding who can assume such a weighty responsibility, the Governing Body has in mind Jesus’ statement: “Everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him; and the one whom people put in charge of much, they will demand more than usual of him.” (Luke 12:48) In addition to appointing Branch Committee members, the Governing Body appoints Bethel elders and traveling overseers. However, they do commission responsible brothers to act for them in making certain other appointments. There is Scriptural precedent also for this.

  ‘Make Appointments, as I Gave You Orders’

  16 Paul told his coworker Titus: “For this reason I left you in Crete, that you might correct the things that were defective and might make appointments of older men in city after city, as I gave you orders.” (Titus 1:5) Paul then outlined the qualifications that Titus was to look for in men who would qualify for such appointments. Today, therefore, the Governing Body appoints qualified brothers at the branches to represent it in making appointments of elders and ministerial servants. Care is taken that those acting representatively on behalf of the Governing Body clearly understand and follow the Scriptural guidelines for making such appointments. Hence, it is under the direction of the Governing Body that qualified men are appointed to serve in the congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide.

  17 When recommendations for appointment of overseers and ministerial servants are submitted to a branch office of the Watch Tower Society, experienced men rely on God’s spirit for guidance in making the appointments. These men feel a sense of accountability, realizing that they must not lay their hands hastily upon any man, lest they share in his sins.—1 Timothy 5:22.

  18 Certain appointments may be transmitted by a letter bearing an official stamp from a legal entity. Such a letter may be used to appoint more than one brother in the congregation.

  19 Theocratic appointments come from Jehovah through his Son and God’s visible earthly channel, “the faithful and discreet slave” and its Governing Body.
  
  2001 The Watchtower, 1/15, pp. 14-16 pars. 14-19
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  Do You Realize That Almost EVERY Society Publication Is "Old Light" Now?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now that the "faithful & discreet slave class" has become essentially the governing body since 1919, almost every publication is obsolete and useless!

  (i know, they are useless)..... the fds doctrine is a core teaching unique to jehovah's witnesses and now i believe they will have to change all of their understandings that are recorded in the revelation climax book, ezekiel books---every prophetic book written by the society!.

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  bats in the belfry

  . . . start archiving the jw.org website fast.

  It probably will get updated to the 'new light' without any announcement.
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  PDF Versions of Literature - Faithful Slave says ... count them on your field service report

  by wannabefree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  perhaps this has been covered .. i didn't see it.. december km (thanks atlantis http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/239632/1/2012-2013-literature-request-form-2012-december-kingdom-ministry-2012-october-3-boe ).

  page 5. send an article or a publication to someone.

  you know: attach a downloaded pdf or.

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  DATA-DOG >>

  I stand by my prediction that within 5 years (...) that there will be no printing of magazines.

  . . . for sure a prophecy to watch for.

  By then, make certain to use the Tor Project's "Tor Browser Bundle" ensuring your anonymity when logging into jw.org, just like Chinese dissidents do.
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  PDF Versions of Literature - Faithful Slave says ... count them on your field service report

  by wannabefree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  perhaps this has been covered .. i didn't see it.. december km (thanks atlantis http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/239632/1/2012-2013-literature-request-form-2012-december-kingdom-ministry-2012-october-3-boe ).

  page 5. send an article or a publication to someone.

  you know: attach a downloaded pdf or.

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  LostGeneration & sir82 >>

  4 hours, 3 return visits, and 1,456,789 books placed.

  With those numbers skyrocketing, the 2013 SERVICE YEAR REPORT will show so much more global ineffectiveness of their preaching work.

  Theocratic Sedition >>

  why are they so numbers obsessed?

  It will backlash at them. Placements are bound to increase drastically but the growth rate likely will be a fat zero.